so the other nite we were hanging with some mates from church at our place and the giant of the group (aptly named klein (small) frans) came up with this saying “the God i believe in is not the God you don’t believe in” which i think is brilliant and which i blog posted and made my status line on facebook and twitter (some might say ‘overkill’ – i might say ‘collective ramifications’ but just because it’s a nice sounding phrase – go on, say it out loud… not SO loud, you don’t want to freak out the people in the office, sheesh!)
and i was thinking about it this morning briefly (but very quickly – so a lot of thort in a short space of time – i think my mind just works that way when i set it free as i do from time to time) the idea is we’re comparing Christ followers to unbelievers – so the idea or understanding or concept of God that unbelievers have is not a true representation of who God really is and i would go so far as to say that i also don’t believe in the God you don’t believe in (as a quandary, or a corollary, or whatever it’s called, to the original theoretical!)
but then (at an rpm of millions per second per second) [squared] i realised that actually that statement sadly covers a lot of christians as well – or people calling themselves christians at any rate (the ones who may never be accused of excessive Christ following) – i think churches (as in the buildings and the meetings) are filled with people who have a completely skewed picture of who God is and how He sees them and what His intentions are of relationship with them.
and so it’s sad, but i think it’s true, that i can say to a lot of the christians out there, ‘the God i believe in is not the same God you believe in’
for example, my God would not choose religion over relationships ever (as was hugely demonstrated to me on sunday when an old guy in my church went all psycho on me because some kids had got overly excited when communion was happening, and he chose religion over relationship with me, with them, and definitely did not act or speak in love)
the God i love and serve would never insist on you jumping through hoops of any kind to be ‘good enough’ to be worthy of His love and attention and acceptance – He has already done all the hoop-jumping necessary in sending Jesus – the price has been paid, you just need to accept it and live in that freedom
and so on.
I agree totally. If God was like what they thought and following him as depressing as their mental image I wouldn’t do it either.
brett, dude! you speak so much truth, it’s amazing!
God and I are going through a bit of an identity crisis at the moment and so much of it has been because of the people around me. On the one hand I wanna shut everyone out and hear directly from Him, but doesn’t he speak through people, or is that just something people say in order to validate their say which is actually theirs and not God’s? where does relationship over religion apply here?
oh and Klein’s quote? totally high- fiveable! no overkill whatsoever!
hey Nolo
totally high-fiveable, indeed.
yeah how to hear from God can be a tricky one – God speaks in so many ways – one of the strongest is thru His word so make sure you’re in it and munching as often as possible but another way is thru people – but as long as what people say is always backed up by His word (becomes tricky when it’s the difficult passages requiring or receiving interpretations and then need to be led by the Spirit for sure) so ja a combination i feel and if you rely on one instead of the other you may be in trouble so i would say hear both and then take it to God and ask Him to really verify and confirm what is Him
hopefully that helps – keep pressing in – if you seek you will find Him
much love
b
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