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I’m not sure if you are aware, but the Word of Birds in Hout bay is having allot of financial trouble due to lack of visitors. Would you be do kind as to encourage people in you thought for the week emails to visit the world of birds or possibly donate to keep them going. Jesus would help out I’m sure.
Walter Mangold, the owner of World of Birds – the biggest wildlife sanctuary in Africa – is desperately trying to save more than 3000 birds and other animals.
Mangold has been losing sleep because of the increasing likelihood that he will have to kill the animals because of financial constraints linked to a R1-million bank loan and rocketing operating costs.
Hit by the world economic recession, a “disruptive” soccer World Cup and a lack of school visits last year, the sanctuary, in Hout Bay, Cape Town, might shut down after the Easter weekend if its cash crisis is not resolved.
Mangold is scraping the barrel to come up with the R500000 a month needed to run the sanctuary.
“Drastic decreases in tourism over the past three years have reduced visitor numbers from 100000 to 70000 a year. The lack of income from the missing visitors during 2010 has led to a shortfall of R1.3-million,” said Mangold.
In its 38 years of operation, the sanctuary took in up to 200 injured birds and other animals every month, but Mangold, foresees “another difficult year”.
The sanctuary has stopped its free wildlife care and community information service, which cost R100000 a month.
“There is no municipal support or recognition for this service and there has never been corporate support.
“The charitable private funding over the past 38 years has become unsustainable, putting the continuation of the World of Birds as a bird park at risk.”
The park is home to owls and other raptors, parrots, pigeons, tortoises, monkeys and meerkats.
In January, Mangold wrote to Allan Perrins, CEO of the Cape of Good Hope SPCA, to discuss handing over the park’s wildlife care service to the SPCA. The SPCA said the meeting was not necessary and he should go ahead and refer all matters to the SPCA.
But, said Mangold: “The SPCA says if a wild animal cannot live in the wild they will ‘put it down’. We have a no-kill policy. If an animal comes to us, even if injured or handicapped, if there is [a prospect] of a good quality of life we won’t kill it. We look after it.”
SPCA spokesman Sara Scarth said her organisation was happy to handle any cases the sanctuary could not.
“I don’t know whether they want us to fund them so that they can keep going or what,” she said.
“Wherever possible, we will try to return wildlife to the wild. We certainly do not run sanctuaries.”
The world of birds is a highlight for many children. It teaches many good values and caring for nature. Please include the link where people can donate:
http://www.worldofbirds.org.za/html/form.html
hey nathan
firstly, this is a post on forgiveness so possibly a more appropriate means of going about this would have been to email me in my inbox rather and let me decide from there… [i get a lot of stuff from people as replies to blogs that have nothing to do with the blogs and it’s a little frustrating cos i’m trying to promote discussion on the particular topic so it gets a little distracting]
i am sorry to hear that as world of birds is a cool place i haven’t been to in a long while but i did go a bunch of times and it was cool
but when i read that it takes R500000 a month to keep it in business i don’t really know what to do with that – i am not convinced that Jesus would get involved in the way you might like – for me it seems like a lot of money that could be better spent on people in trouble and i’m sure that will get me un-liked by the animal-over-people people [and sometimes it really does seem from the way that people act that animals deserve it more] but that’s what i feel. i like animals, but i love people and would choose to help a person in need over an animal.
so ja, i will allow your post to hang here for a bit so that it will get some kind of exposure and other people can see and act if they would like, but i won’t use tftw to promote that and i hope you will understand why.
thank you.
It’s not r500k per month, but just to get people to help with advertising. Surely a mention won’t hurt. Also many kids love it and people will lose their jobs if they close.
If they close, the money won’t go to people anyway. If it stays open, it gives many kids the happiness of experiencing nature. It provides employment as well.
Can you reconsider?
Even looking at it from a purely people point of view:
Thousands of schoolkids per month get to experience it, and it brings great joy to their hearts seeing the birds, tortoises and monkeys.
There are quite a few poor people who work as casuals and others who provide for their families from working there.
Whatever the sanctuary costs per month, if it had to close, the money would not go to the poor people. You get it? It doesn’t take from the poor people.
So really guys are looking for dome advertising all over to encourage people to go there.
Changed your mind?
There are about 50 people employed there from the local townships, who work hard everyday, cleaning cages, showing schoolchildren around and looking after the rare birds, tortoises and other animals. This is a source of pride and income for these people and they us the money to support their families.
If this were a cinema where poor people worked, you would probably advertise it right? Or a theatresports as you often advertise in thought for the week.
So it’s just as much a people thing as and animal thing here.
Just thinking that with all due respect, that you didn’t give your comment much thought. You see as I’ve explained, the centre benefits people in a lot of ways that other places could not. Your immediate reaction was a typical Christain, “people vs animals” comment. As with this, it’s often that attitude which ruins it for people and animals. If the center closes, 50 or so people Lose their jobs, increasing the number of unemployed and poor. Money stops coming into the area and tourism there stops, creating a snowball effect of poverty as less tourists equals less buying fish and trinkets from the locals. When there is harmony with nature then people are uplifted as well.
Sorry about posting here, just looking go advertise. The workers from world of birds are also out looking for support on this. So please don’t say it’s a people vs animals thing. It’s mutually beneficial to both in a myriad of ways.
Just a quick lesson in economics. It may cost r500k per month to run, but it brings about r10mil per month into Hout bay as more tourists come there especially to see the world of birds. Half that amount is salaries of the staff and workers.
I have friends who work there from the hangberg and the other township. It teaches kids a respect for nature and the environment which in turn encourages them to farm and go into these fields as adults thereby providing food for the poor.
I just cannot believe you enjoyed going there but couldn’t care enough to give it a small mention in your weekly publication. You don’t care that people will lose their jobs, thousands of animals will be put down? People will go hungry.
Back to the animals part. I agree that people shouldn’t be buying cats and dogs. It should be illegal to breed dogs or cats. If people want these animals, then there are more then enough at SPCA. These animals kill a lot of wild birds so they are abmenace in large numbers.
The world of birds encourages diversity and a healthy ecosystem is good for both animals and people.
Please mention it in your thought email if only for saving the peoples jobs and the tourist industry which directly affects thousands in Hout bay.
Hopefully one day you will come to understand that humans and naure are very much interlinked and dependent on each other.
Hi Nathan,
Instead of asking Brett “Would you be do kind as to encourage people in you thought for the week emails to visit the world of birds or possibly donate to keep them going.?” why didn’t you just tell him to do it or else…Because he gave you an answer and you have now pushed the point and been judgmental about it which means that he really didn’t have any choice but to do what you wanted him to do in the first place.
There could be a forest of fruit trees, but a Christian will come along and cut the forest down to clear land for people.
The nature lovers ask them to please conserve the forest as it provides shelter for animals and the trees provide fruit.
The Christian pulls out a Bible and says,”We need land for the people as they are more important than animals and trees.”
The Christian then prepares the chainsaws and bulldozers and clears the once fertile valley.
No more fruit trees, no more animals, no more insects to pollinate the crops. The crops fail and the soil is washed into the sea, barren wasteland.
They then wonder why the people starve…
You can put that in your thort letter if you dare. I publicly challenge you on this my man!! Or be a coward, get angry and delete this.
I agree with my friend Nathan. He is a good guy, and lives amongst the poor in a shack in Hangberg. So you can’t judge the guy.
we’ve been found out and unmasked.
How did you know it was christians, under the guise of big corporate companies, that is leading the drive to global deforestation, (discarding the cut wood and) using nuclear waste to build houses for the poor on these large empty patches of land?
since our mask has been removed and the true face of christianity exposed, I’d also like to confess to christians being responsible for the extinction of the dodo. sorry dodo’s.
(Brett, you are welcome to sensor this comment. Just thought it was funny)
Elton has a point in a way.
The dodo bird was actually hunted to extinction by Christians believe it or not!
Brett this is a people thing too, so you should really promote it. I’m with Nathan on this one. Probably wrong section of your blog tho. Can you make a topic about this animals vs people misconception and move these posts there?
I get that you all feel this is an appropriate and good thing to promote and it may very well be but in all honesty this is Brett’s blog and he blog’s things that are on his heart and so I find it quite out of line that people come on here and tell him what to blog.
Why do you advertise other stuff on your thort for the week? Such as your theatresports. Is it to make money? But you can’t help save peoples jobs in Houtbaai.
You thrive on being in the limelight that’s why you love people as they worship you. You get a power trip having a blog and people following your every word. Think about your real reasons for doing this. You can’t leave your laptop for one week can you? Addicted to fame. What some others have said about you must be true I’m afraid.
Bernard, do you know Brett? Have you had coffee with him ever? Hung out and heard his heart and his passion? Seen what he does with his finances? Watched how he treats his wife? Seen how he stands by and encourages his friends? Heard how he stands up for truth, and goodness, and justice, and grace? Have you seen the fairness with which he always responds to people who attack him or judge him?
If you haven’t then you do not have the right to come on here and judge him and make false accusation. Your allegations are outrageous. I cannot believe how people can say stuff like you say about someone whom you don’t even know.
Look at the facts! Theatresports is advertised. It’s therefore a commercial thing being advertised. Everything seems to be about fame and traveling. Can Brett go one week without the Internet? Surely if he is do for Jesus then he could easily go without publicizing it like those on the street corners in the Bible.
If the above is anything to go by, where he won’t help peoples jobs then I worry about how good he really is. I also wonder why such schtupidity to think it’s some competition between animals and people. What rubbish is that? It’s about a wildlife place for crying out loud where people work and earn and support families.
Just a lot of things don’t add up. Also seeing someone in person doesnt prove anything. Lots of conmen around.
Fame is very alluring.
Brett is judging all the time do get off your high horse Val. First he says people must go to Hell including s other religions. He doesn’t know these people, but to Hell he says the must go. He can’t even answer the questions directly and as others said, is very evasive. Don’t just say go to hell ha ha ha
Secondly, his thought for the week is not the Gospel. He advertises himself and stuff you do on it, so one post by Nathan who was a bit overzealous and you jump right on the judging and accuse him and judge him, to paraphrase,”bretts blog, you forcing him, he is not to be argued with even when he shows zero logic”
You Val come on here immediately on the attack, judging everyone. You don’t know any of the posters here.
Brett you must get off the couch and away from the tv and out into the real world and study something. I have a degree in economics and politics and can easily see that closing the wildlife park would decrease tourism by up to 50 percent resulting in net loss into the millions per month for the region. Look in a your tourist books snd mention is made of this bird park.
I hard it when Christians or so-called Christians build up fans and then manipulate these fans into supporting them and propping up their own power base.
Get over yourself for heavens sake. It was about supporting a little bird park where people work and children are entertained. What’s so hard to understand? Why the big deal about giving it a line or two in this email you send out?
you know i take one thing back… i just realised why these comments ended up on this particular blog post.
bernard, you are so off the mark in a number of things – you say i am judging by telling people they will go to hell, not at all, i am reporting, what the Bible says on the matter [the bible which i believe to be God’s inspired word] and so that is what i believe God says about it…
my thort for the week is not the gospel. you are right there. that is why it is called my ‘thort’ for the week – it is my understanding of a thing i think God is saying and challenging people to live that out [and if you ever read them you will see that i constantly challenge people to test what i say against scripture and if it doesn’t conform then to throw it away – as we should do with anybody who speaks God stuff – test it and see if it is in line with God’s word – if so, live it, if not, don’t.]
thirdly it is my thort for the week – it is an email i send out – nathan asked me if i would do him a favour – i chose not to – tftw goes out to over 3000 people and try and imagine for a second how many of those people ask me to advertise their causes and prayer requests and events – as the sender of the thorts i choose sometimes to do that but mostly not – the point of TFTW is it is an email challenge and so that is always the focus – which is why i generally don’t even include other peoples prayer requests unless i decide to – there are other avenues for that – TFTW is not it – also TFTW is international and world of birds is local and so the majority of people who read TFTW can not go and visit world of birds [same with theatresports actually but because that’s something i do i feel fine with advertising it in my thort for the week and think i have that right]
i approve every single one of these responses one by one – do you think i would approve the attacks you and others make on me if i had something to hide or if i thort there was truth in them – i often approve them simply because the people writing them make enough of a case against themselves that i don’t even have to respond to them – if it was all about me and my fame and my reputation as you claim then surely i would delete anything nasty that was said about me and yet i continue to air most of what comes into my inbox because i choose to be transparent and spend a lot of time ‘wasted on my couch’ as you say responding to people who i know are unlikely to listen or hear and are just preparing their next barrage – i choose to engage with people on truth and hope that even with the difficult and judgemental and accusationary ones something of God’s truth and grace and love will shine through in my responses…
you tell me to get off my couch [i did this afternoon when a bunch of us took some kids from a house in the local township, kayamandi – where i lived for a year and a half before i got married – to the local park and played with them and gave them a really good time] and study something [i have – i don’t know what you base your ideas that i haven’t studied something because i have a piece of paper that speaks of a successful four year study period]
you write “Look in a your tourist books snd mention is made of this bird park.” which just proves that you haven’t even been following the argument as it has gone along as i mentioned already – and it was responded to – that i have been there on a number of occasions
good day, sir.
At least you admit that you advertise your own theatresports. Commercial that us.
waitasecond… is this Yoda?
People can donate to world of birds, from overseas. You know the Internet allows that. Just like churches take credit cards so their pastors can go preach to the poor in Mauritius and Seychelles and tanzania. So your argument about it being international falls completely flat. Yet in your thought fir the week you mention the local theatresports, encouraging people to attend workshops and to watch it. How much cash do you make out of it? So I assume the. That only if it’s your ideas or for your commercial business dies it going your thought for the week.
Why do you feel the need to tell everyone that you lived in a township? Who cares? Why advertise it all the time? Recognition? Or dud you stay there as you could not find other accommodation. Either way you mention it a great deal.
If you leave out other peoples important prayers, yet advertise your own theatresports then that really does explain everything!! There is no point arguing further. Good evening sir
You don’t include other peoples prayers as you don’t think they’re important enough?
Yet you advertise and include theatresports.
So theatresports is more important then!
Or you are more important than anyone else’s prayers.
That’s it in a nutshell!
bernard, you are doing a great job of proving the point i wrote in my other blog about not listening or responding to what i wrote at all. if you’re at a chess club, you play chess not bridge. my thort for the week email is not a prayer list so i generally don’t use it for sharing prayer requests – it’s not about what it more important at all – it is simply about the purpose of the thing…
how much do i make off theatresports? not even the petrol money it takes for me to get there so try again.
i do completely agree with the one point you made: there is no point arguing further [a mature argument assumes that each side listens to the other side, weighs up what they are saying and counters with relevant counterargument whereas you, my friend, are simply throwing pies]
and to quote you… “commercial that us”
Are they closing? That’s really sad… I’ve been there a many times and it’s a wonderful place especially for the kids. Everyone should contribute to help them stay open. The owner is a wonderful guy who dedicates his life towards animals. He helps people as well by the way.
I really can’t understand why you think it’s not worthy of even a mention. It’s a really good cause that helps not only people that are employed there (some gave already lost their jobs), but helps conservation as a whole.
Whenever a Christian gets involved, it becomes as said above, a ‘why should I help them as the money could go to children, the poor or the Church’. Thats a really ignorant comment if you look beyond the surface of this particular case.
Valerie is absolutely correct, you can blog and send out emails with whatever you wish to be included. But what you include and don’t include says much about you as a person.
I don’t know you personally, but reading dome of your recent blogs I detect quite a bit of negativity from you.
Bernard has a point. How is the world of birds running, taking money that should be going to the poor? I must agree that it employs and brings tourists to the city. Did you maybe nit consider that when you commented on the money part?
i did not consider that Gizelle and possibly the best way to get me to consider it would be to say “did you realise that world of birds employs x amount of people and there is the tourism thing and so on” but sadly by that point it had already gotten into a personal attack and so it’s a lot harder in the middle of being attacked to go “hey, good point” – you say you sense a lot of negativity in my blogs – are you talking the blog posts themselves or the responses to people responding the way they are responding because the one brings about a lot more of a provoked response than the other. you are entitled to have your opinion though but i am really not a negative person – generally quite the eternal optimist, which is why i keep approving posts that continually attack me – my search is for truth, even in the midst of people who may not be presenting it in the most effective way.
Elton, your post is Brilliant. A perfect analogy about Christians as a whole. You should put that in your book.
Stop harassing the guy. He is just not into helping animals.
thankx eugene, but even your comment misses the point a little, i never said i’m not into helping animals – when i saw a number like R500000 per month to look after birds i thort that a little out of balance – people have mentioned the people that work there and the tourism factor and so that changes things to some extent but the point was never that i don’t like animals, just that i think people are worth more than animals…
R500 000 per month is not a lot. Think about it:
1. The place is 8 Hectares in size.
2. It employs 40 permanent workers and other casuals. Assuming the average salary is R5000-R7000 per month, thats about R200 000 – R250 000 just in salaries.
3. Bird food, water, equipment probably makes up the rest of the money.
4. There are tortoises, monkeys, and a variety of other animals that reside there.
R500 000 is not a lot of money. Look at how much money is pulled in by Rhema Church or His People and other churches through tithes. Then you see these pastors driving stately cars and overseas holidays. Rhema probably pulls in millions – what percentage to the poor?
So its more a case of Church vs poor rather than a park vs the poor.
The park helps the poor. Its mostly self sustaining but has taken a hit recently with the lack of tourists.
Personally i think calling a publication like the Argus or the Burger would be more effective to highlight the plight of the sanctuary ? In fact, Nathan, you could send the original post just like that but just replace the line ‘Jesus would help out I’m sure’ to ‘The Argus would help out I’m sure’. I also heard Cape Talk radio giving away money to a charitable cause this morning. Just call or email Aden Thomas.
If what Elton says is correct, then i’m sure Nathan can organise a whole bunch of volunteers from the community in Hangberg to help the owner out. Isn’t that what communities are for ? to help someone in need ?
Why dont you post this on say a celebrity gossip blog or an internet dating site? I’m sure they get more traffic than this (brett’s) site. Oh. that’s right. It’s not an appropriate place. Neither is this blog.
This all just seems like a personal attack [on brett] in a public place rather than a personal email exchange or phone call. I have not seen anyone respond with love or understanding (except maybe Arno who made a practical suggestion).
I think the main issue at the heart of the matter is that the publication in question is as Brett says, a challenge per week. Prayers and requests cannot all go in this publication as it would become too large to bulk mail.
That having been said; there is probably another outlet he could advertise this through, such as twitter or facebook. A status update for example.
thankx Donald, finally someone who is listening and responding to what is being said – i completely could have done a status update or a twitter which would have both been more appropriate places to write something and both really easy to do. the issue here is i was requested to do something and then attacked when i chose not to – so the question at the heart of the matter – which i think val was alluding to – is was i actually asked at all, or was it demanded of me?
Maybe just do something to help. Anything would be better than nothing. Even just for the sake of the men and women who work there. Their whole lives revolve around that park. Probably about 200 people’s lives at stake if you consider these people put food on the table.
This is from the Wolrd of Birds Website owner. It shows the owner’s devotion. Now he is a true Christian.
far in a fight against all the odds and the local authorities in particular, to not having a secure personal income, struggling to pay the monthly rentals, living in a home that has not seen any improvements in years, and not a singly new piece of clothing bought during the same period. And still no end in sight.
Walter, you are a fool, they say. Why don’t you get out of this mess while you still can? What are you carrying on for? Come on, be realistic, you are not a youngster any more. Why don’t you get yourself a good job? In the last five years you could have earned yourself a fortune. After all you have good qualifications.
But what do you do and keep on doing? You haven’t had a single free weekend or a holiday. You haven’t even been able to sleep late on a rainy Sunday or on any other morning. Look at your borrowed car – thirteen years old! Look at the people around you and compare the standard of living. What’s wrong with you? They ask.
Others say that if I had concentrated on the breeding of exotic birds, birds for which there is a ready market and which was my original intention in the first place, I would be well into the money by now with much less work involved, less staff required, and generally less expenses.
What do I do instead? I get stuck with all those sick and injured wild birds which clutter the aviaries, demand much time and labour at high cost and no return. I addition there is the endless struggle with the authorities who want to close the place down, instead of acknowledging that I am doing the job they should have been doing themselves in the first place. When will I ever come to my senses and face the truth?
The thing that hurts most is the fact that they are right. What answers can I give and with what words can I justify the apparently futile caring for wildlife? Work, work, work from early morning till late at night which allows no private life and leaves no room for old friends who have abandoned me as a lost cause.
Still. I shall not give up. Yes, I believe in a better future. I believe in eventual official acknowledgement. I believe that the public will in future support the World of Birds to the extent that it will become self-supporting. I believe that there must be somebody who is prepared to care for birds and animals in need, even if that someone has to be me.
Above all, with the support that new friends have given to carry this far, how could I not persist in something that has proven to so essential. Can there still be a choice?
cool Paul, i can send out a Twitter or a Facebook status – man, this is going to dent my “i hate animals” persona, but i guess i can work on that again later… soomeone send me a link or website or something to direct people to, and thankx for asking nicely Paul…
Thanks so much. You should go there to the park sometime. The guy Walter who own/runs the place is a very don’t-to-earth good guy. His passion for animals and people is really great.
My advice for Brett is that next time someone requests something like that, just look into it a bit more. Try explain in a better way as you possibly might tend to come across as a slightly uncaring about the request and maybe a slight bit of sarcasm when you said, “Thank you” at the end of your post? If I am imagining it then my apologies, but thats kind of what I picked up from your post, a slight annoyance. So possibly take more time to answer logically analyze and consider it more carefully. I think maybe you jumped to conclusions a bit as we all end to do on certain matters.
My advice to the others is to try keep it to relevant blogs or email Brett Fish personally. I’m sure the email address is on here. If you wish to publicly call him on something then so be it. Also consider that you get people and animal helpers which are both good causes. Some like Brett help people more and some prefer helping animals. Both are noble and admirable past-times.
So on the whole people should think a bit more before posting on both sides.
thanx brett for your audio thought on forgiveness. i really enjoyed it.
Video is where its at! Start a Youtube channel and put up videos there. I listened to your audio thing as well but notice that not many people go there. Use Youtube and you’ll attract many viewers guaranteed. You just need a webcam, or even a digital camera with video function or a phone with video.
What an audio blog on forgiveness Brett. Thing of champions. Especially that part where you talk about sponsoring the World of Birds as a way of showing retribution for all the atrocities that Christians have committed (Dodo killing and Theatresports advertising to name a few).
MJ: Can you be more sarcastic?
Brett: Great podcats.
Give me a break — President Zuma is absolutely accurate in his metaphor. The ANC appears to operate exactly the way organised Christianity does. As with Christianity, it’s who you know that advances you in the political arena. If you haven’t personally welcomed Jesus into your life, or JZ into your business, you have no chance of getting to heaven, or that Great Tender in the Sky as it’s known locally.
As with Catholicism, which I believe is still a version of Christianity, the ANC has a holy old fossil it drags out every now and then when it needs to score points with an unruly congregation complaining about how long paradise, or low-cost housing in our case, is taking to arrive.
Encouraging similarity
And just like Christianity, the ANC also promises that the meek shall inherit the earth, and yet leaves its believers dirt poor. Well, except in the spiritual sense I suppose. And an encouraging similarity is that both Christianity and the ANC do good despite themselves, mostly thanks to the unsung, selfless, ordinary heroics of men and women who spend their time in the trenches, rather than trying to find out how many BMWs you can fit into the garage of a pinhead politician.
The presidential hotline (or the City of Jo’burg helpline, for that matter) is very much like prayer — a hopeless plea addressed into a gaping void, where the only thing that sustains you is the belief that one day, somehow, there’ll be a miracle and God will actually answer the phone.
Christianity (and Islam and Judaism, of course) exists precisely to maintain the status quo by the use of threats and coercion, but also, more benignly, by the harnessing of people to a greater cause that can, although not always, benefit humanity as a whole. Exactly what the ANC is for, of course, and as with Christianity, we need to deal with some uncomfortable anomalies, such as gods who kill children to further the cause of their sect or soccer club, and institutionalised corruption and nepotism. Just as the Christian God handed over the reins of power to his son, so do Jacob Zuma’s children benefit from his connections.
I guess if Jacob Zuma and the ANC are Jesus and Christianity respectively, then Helen Zille and the DA are Lucifer and Satanism. This is the first time I’ve ever seen a convincing reason why I might vote DA. At last, a party that honestly embraces evil, rather than just sucking at Mammon’s sushi-smelling teat behind closed Polokwane doors.
If I was an adherent of Islam or Judaism, I’d also have to vote DA — after all, what self-respecting Jew or Muslim wants to vote ANC and end up in a heaven with smug ANC politicians riding the winged gravy train around and around the celestial trough while chanting, “told you so, told you so”?
next week on the richard jordaan talk show: how michael jackson is a banana skin… tune in…
Billie Jean is not lover.
Billie Jean is not my lover.
Blasted Yoda.
MJ: Are you some kind of Michael Jackson wannabe? Status Quo man.
Why complain about Zuma if you do it yourself? Look in the Bible, and Polygamy is allowed.
Charlie Sheen is right then.
i am quite sure i don’t know what you are saying. but you use Charlie Sheen as proof of something. that makes all the points in the world you need to make. carry on.
Charlie is right that polygamy is accepted in the Bible. So why do Christians think he is mad and judge him?
Just read your comment about that zoo – very unkind to not support them.
MJ’s blog looks a lot nicer – more photos and nicely laid out. Put more photos here as well and more will come.
thankx richard, i passed your love on to mj, the purpose of my blog is mostly to write my thorts, it is not about doing whatever i can to attract the masses but i will keep that in mind…
thankx richard, i passed your love on to mj, the purpose of my blog is mostly to write my thorts, it is not about doing whatever i can to attract the masses but i will keep that in mind…
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