i have called Google ‘Uncle Google’ for a long time now – i’m not sure why i do that cos it’s very silly but it’s become my thing [which is probly why i do that]. i guess one reason is that when someone asks me something i don’t know i will either tell them to ask Uncle Google or i say that i will and it feels like bringing another person into the conversation.
i read on Facebook [source 1=”all” 2=”Truth” 3=”and” 4=”Reason” language=”of”][/source] this morning that well-known christian speaker and writer Joel Osteen has resigned and quit the faith. i’ve not been a huge fan of his writing as even his book titles suggest that he belongs to a group of christian writers/speakers who have a very strong focus on you – it’s all about you and becoming the best you you can be and being comfortable and happy and loving life, and so a brand of feel-good christianity that i’m not sure Jesus would be very comfortable with.
so when i read on Facebook that he had resigned and even quit his faith, my initial reaction was a bit of relief and “phew for Christianity” but then quite quickly i had another far more sobering thought… something along the lines of “Is that a Christ following reaction to have?”
as i read the article the announcement was linked to and how a church member said something along the lines of, “we gave him all our money and now he’s doing this to us. no ways, we’re not going to let him get away with that” i thought to myself, ‘wait a second, am i standing in line with all the other people ready to throw rocks at Joel?’
so question one that is asked of me is what is my attitude and posture when someone else falls [especially if it’s someone i’m not a big fan of] – is that a reason to celebrate, to quietly feel relieved or happy that someone else is not in a good place? doesn’t sound very Jesusful
then for some reason, i decided to check in on Uncle Google and get his thoughts [yes, i get that he’s not a real person and with all the knowledge he has i should be referring to him as she, right?]
and so i do the customary search i do every time i see the words when i come across the maths problem:
[thing i would really like to have – money, computer, latest phone] + [Facebook]
which is to type [thing i would like to have] and the word [hoax] into Uncle Google…
and sure enough, there are links to the Joel Osteen thing being a hoax [to be honest, not as many as there normally are with a blatant Facebook hoax so i am not even sure yet whether it is or isn’t]
WHAT TO LEARN FROM THIS LITTLE LESSON:
#1 would be to always verify information received before acting on it – in the virtual world we have of hoaxes and misreporting and photoshop and so on, there is a lot of misleading information going around there.
#2 would be to question why am i sharing information – someone dies, someone falls from grace, celebrity scandal etc – why am i so quick to become part of the gossip chain of passing this on?
#3 would be to question if sharing the information is “me doing my bit” – this is definitely a different blog post but it is a valid question that came to me while i was giving us some stuff to think about – the whole thing with Kony2012, with articles on poverty and violence to women etc is that me feeling like i’ve done my bit so i don’t need to get involved or is that me trying to get some momentum for the action i am going to be doing?
#4 would be where do i stand when someone falls? [regardless of my feelings towards that person] – am i holding a rock and waiting for the signal, or am i on my knees praying for them and their family, crying out against injustice done, am i writing them a note of encouragement or offering to cook them a meal if they are someone i know? how would Jesus have me respond to crisis of any type?
these are important questions i need to ask myself. and i hope some of you will join me…
I would like to know why he left Christianity. That to me is most important. In my opinion, there is some virtue in being able to change one’s mind based on the gaining of information.
Secondly, does this mean that all his books are now irrelevant all of a sudden when once they were thought to be tools to gain a higher understanding of one’s relationship with god?
Welcome, Joel, to the wilderness that is reality.
well, if you read the blog you would see that it is more than likely a hoax and so he hasn’t left Christianity – not quite sure i am totally on board with all of his interpretation of the reality of following Jesus but i imagine we would have some overlap.
if he had left, then i don’t know that that act in itself would make the books [if they were authentic tools for growth – have not read enough to know the answer to that one] any less true, because him believing it or not now doesn’t make it any less true or not – the proper thing would be to read the books and judge the truth on their merit and not the name or place of the author, which sadly too many people do [both inside and outside of the church]
you’re describing it as a wilderness? i thought you were happy and totally satisfied there? not the paradise you described to me before?
I Like the 3rd lesson you brought out – lets never feel like we have done out bit by sharing a post on FB when it comes to the big stuff. We need to roll up our sleeves and not expect the next person to view our share (who’s eye it catches for a brief moment) to take action.
I’m not an expert on Joel nor have I read his books. I’ve seen him briefly on TV, but I’m guessing the discernment within motivated me to move along instead of hearing him out. I’m all for being the best person God made us to be, like Moses being bettered by God to become the instrument in saving the children of Israel. I think God calls us to be strong and courageous amidst uncertainty like at the beginning of Deuteronomy 31. I’m also leery of anyone that would encourage people to seek a formulated faith for the purposes of wealth and prosperity.
Natural man’s reaction to a leader’s public denial and declaration about leaving the faith might cause feelings of betrayal and resentment. “You lead us to be believe… How could you betray us? How can you betray Christ?” One minute he’s a brother. The next, he’s our enemy! And this is where I believe Jesus calls us to Love our enemies like in Matthew 5:43-48. As believers in Christ, if we don’t show the fallen, the deny-ers, the betrayers of the faith the same love that Christ shows us, then how are we any different than Muslims who ostracize and disown family members who leave Islam?
I enjoyed this Brett. I’ll admit to having the same initial thought as you when I read the (possibly hoax-y) statusii about Mr Osteen. I’ve always had my doubts about the genuine-ness of his faith (because of the you-centred nature of his talks and books) and I admit to giving myself a pat on the back for being right, along with the thought of “good riddance”. So your thoughts were right on the money. Regardless of how much someone annoys me, how is it possible that my first thought on hearing someone has renounced the faith that I believes saves is one of celebration? Simply put, is this the reaction Jesus would have? No. Then why do I have it?
As always, thanks for posting!
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